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Season 7, Ep 7 - Dual Credit Course Options with Mrs Fair
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This week, Mrs. Fair is on the podcast to share the options LuHi students have for earning college credit on their high school transcripts. We cover everything from dual credit classes taught in our classrooms to online dual credit options to all school testing. If you've ever had questions about dual credit, this episode is for you!
Check if your credits will transfer to your college: https://www.transferology.com/index.htm
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SPEAKER_01Yes. Um Christina, you sent us a lovely email. Um, and I you can say that you're the number one fan. She says, I'm the podcast's second biggest fan, and I'll leave the number one spot open for now. No, you get it. You're number one. Really? Yeah. Who else would be above her? Maggie. No. Maggie's number one. Maggie, she's our number one critic. She doesn't get to be our number one fan. She says, I don't know how I discovered the podcast yet. It uh has become one of the best ways to stay informed about what's happening at Liu High. I'm gonna put this somewhere, and hopefully this will this is like a review will help other people see. That's a blurb. Yeah, that is. Thank you so much. Um, and then she said, I know the podcast is moving to an every other week episode. I thought so. Uh we have yet to do that. So I would love for that to be true, but uh so far it's still weekly. So thanks for your encouragement around that. Um, and she said a special shout out to Mr. Gurky. I especially appreciate the episode on device usage policy. Good.
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SPEAKER_01Okay, so then we have three book recommendations. Do you remember that we were talking about books at one point? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02As we should.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Who do you want first? Maggie, Laura, or my mom?
SPEAKER_02Maggie, in that order.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Maggie's book recommendation was Unreasonable Hospitality. Okay, when she said that title, I was thinking something like Gospel Comes with a House Key. Have you read that book?
SPEAKER_02No, but I know what you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_01Okay, Laura. Do you remember hers? Because she sent it in the bumper stickers only group text.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Uh Watership Down.
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SPEAKER_01And then my mom had a book recommendation. You know, other people besides my friends and family can also write to the podcast. It's an open invitation.
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SPEAKER_02Oh, so basically it's far and away, Nicole Kidman, Tom Cruise, 1996 drama. Your mom has good taste.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. She also likes Anything by author Kate Quinn. And These Is My Words by Sarah Agnes Prine. And I've read that book, and that's a good book. Great. Well, that's our Zephyr bag. Not a mail bag, it's a zephyr bag. Unless you had anything to add to that.
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SPEAKER_01Jenny Fair is on our podcast today.
SPEAKER_02Our podcast today. What's she talking about?
SPEAKER_01She is talking about getting dual credit, taking high school classes and getting college credit for it, which is everybody should do it. I'm sold.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Yes. It's very affordable at this stage of life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did you do that in high school when you were in high school?
SPEAKER_02Where was no such thing when I was in high school? Oh.
SPEAKER_01We're not that far apart. There is definitely not in Montana.
SPEAKER_02Montana is always like 20 years behind everyone else. They just heard about the internet. They're all texting me now. They're like, this is crazy.
SPEAKER_01You're gonna start getting such a cat videos.
SPEAKER_02These are so funny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so that's why your professor didn't know about show notes.
SPEAKER_02That's true.
SPEAKER_01It's not his fault. Okay, do you have anything nice to say about Jenny Ferrer?
SPEAKER_02About Jenny Fair? Formerly known as Jenny Quinlan. Jenny Q.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Jenny Q.
SPEAKER_02Uh she's been around a while. She's a Denver Lutheran alum. She is Nuss.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And oh, I learned this. Sorry, not to cut you off.
SPEAKER_02Um about to call her a sinner. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01Oh, oh, I killed that. I missed that.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_01Um she was Dan's baseball manager. She was a manager. Did you know that?
SPEAKER_02I think I did.
SPEAKER_01I did not know that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And he was a baseball coach.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's cool.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so she does a lot of great work. She's been in the building a long time. She's very thorough with her stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yes. That's an understatement. Yeah. She's great.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you want to know a secret? Yeah. Um, I kind of found this out on accident, but so Jenny Fair runs the all-school testing stuff, and there's a lot of rules that go with that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And one year I, you know, I don't know, put a piece of paper upside down or something before I gave it back to her. And she and she demoted me down to the auxiliary beta proctor.
SPEAKER_04Oh.
SPEAKER_02Which meant I didn't get to read all this stuff and pick up the stuff and lock the door and put pieces of tape on the and um, and I was like, this is the best emotion I've ever had.
SPEAKER_01This is sounds pretty good. You guys stand there and wait for the thing.
SPEAKER_02Nothing. So there's a life hack when you're dealing with Jenny Fair.
SPEAKER_01That's amazing.
SPEAKER_02Anyway, that's all the time we have time for.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. All right. So thanks for listening to me and my co-host, who possibly has facial blindness. You'll have to tell me what that means sometime. Not to be confused with rudeness when you see him at King Supers. You love that. That's so cool. There's a story behind that. All right. Okay. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Lou High Pod. Thanks so much for listening. And I am super excited because we have a first time guest on the podcast. And that hasn't happened in a long time. We've had a lot of repeats, so this is good. I'm happy to welcome Mrs. Jenny Fair. Welcome.
SPEAKER_00Thanks.
SPEAKER_01Don't be nervous. This is easy. Okay, Mrs. Fair, I'm going to let you introduce yourself because I don't actually know your title. So tell us a little bit about yourself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So my title is junior academic advisor and then AP and dual credit coordinator. Okay. And all school testing. Yeah. Coordinator. And then I work with all the juniors, schedule changes, college planning, whatever it takes. Like I give them a two-year plan and see what we need to do junior year to get to that.
SPEAKER_01So you have a big job. Yes. How long have you been here?
SPEAKER_00I'm in my 12th year.
SPEAKER_01In your 12th year, because when we first hired you, you were a theology teacher. Yes. Is that right? Yes. And Taylor James, our beloved Taylor James, I think you've had her in class.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Yeah. And then she's a student by president, my first year doing NSC.
SPEAKER_01Yes. You've worn many hats because you used to be student council and NHS.
SPEAKER_00I never did NHS.
SPEAKER_01Not NHS. Did you used to run lunch?
SPEAKER_00I did the school store when it was in the flex room.
SPEAKER_01That's right. The school store.
SPEAKER_00And then all the study halls.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00So my title was student services for the longest time, but now we're a little more focused because when I want to talk to other people that are dual credit coordinators, I want to be able to find that person on the website. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. Okay, well, that's a great segue because we are here today to talk about dual credit. Yes. Um, you shared a stat with me and I can't remember it. How many kids right now do we have doing dual credit?
SPEAKER_00So this year, so that includes all the year-long classes, and then I also include the second semester classes. There are 686 students that are in at least one dual credit class. That's crazy. And most of them are in multiple.
SPEAKER_01That is are they mostly juniors and seniors?
SPEAKER_00Um, there's freshmen sophomores because of the languages.
SPEAKER_01Oh, sure.
SPEAKER_00So ASL is one, two, and three. All dual. Spanish is two, three, four, five. There's some freshmen in Spanish five.
SPEAKER_01So Wow. Okay, as usual, I'm putting the cart before the horse. Will you give us the definition of dual credit? And what does it look like at Lutheran High?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so dual credit means you're getting two kinds of credits. So you're getting the high school credit on your high school transcript, and then you have the option of getting a college transcript alongside that. So all you have to do is pay for the college credit. That's the only difference. Okay. So dual credit option. The class looks exactly the same when taught by our teachers. Yes, taught by our teachers. And so the reason that some classes are dual credit and some that are not is the dual credit teachers could teach the equivalent class at the college level. And so what you're enrolling in for the dual credit is a college class. There'll be basically the exact same content that you're getting in the classroom here.
SPEAKER_01Wow. So even ASL 1 is like a college level class. That is awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Okay, so you mentioned cost. We are uh maybe you get this question. We're a tuition-based school, but the the college credit is on top of that. Yes. But but it's like highway robbery.
SPEAKER_00Yes. About $100 a credit, and you get three credits or four if you're doing the math the AP calc. So at $270, that's significantly cheaper than any college credit that you would get. By far. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Cool. Could you just list all the classes that we Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yes. So most of them are through Concordia. We do have APUS history that is through Colorado Christian still.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00But our Concordia ones are AP Lang, AP Lit, Speech and Debate, Spanish 2, 3, 4, and 5, AP Calc A B, AP Calc, B C, Sociology, Music Theory, and then ASL 1, 2 and 3. Wow. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_01So that is called dual credit, but there's another version of dual credit where it's an online class. Is that true?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and that will I we call it dual credit. Okay. Both are dual credit. Yes. Okay. Because but that's where you're taking it. So dual credit here on campus, you get the credit on your high school transcript. When you press transcript from us, you have the high school. You're gonna need to request that transcript from Concordia or from CCU of the college. So when you want the college portion of the credit, you need that to be transferred to your college that you're going to. Okay. So we don't have that on our transcript. So if you're taking the dual credit online, online, okay, then you're getting a college transcript and you need to request that transcript be sent to us because it was taught at the college.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So no matter which direction you go, whether it's on on campus class or an online class, you are essentially getting two transcripts. Yes. One from us and one from the college.
SPEAKER_00You just need to know that you have to request a transcript from the other school. So the dual credit taught in person, you have to request the college transcript. Okay. The GCU class, you need to request that transcript so that we have proof that you took it and we have the grade. Got it. So the default goes to the school that's teaching it.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So does the grade if the grade you get in an online college class, does it affect your GPA with us?
SPEAKER_00Yes, it's weighted.
SPEAKER_01A weighted GPA. Okay. Cool. So if you get like a B in the class, it'll show up as a B on the transcript, but that's a weighted GPA. So Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, you mentioned GCU and would you say we partner with GCU as the online college option?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. GCU is good for some options. Okay. There are other options that were we explored new this year. The Colorado Christian dual credit, but they go through like semesters or semesters or Okay. Like 17, is it 11 weeks, 17 weeks? Okay. It goes through the city.
SPEAKER_01Whereas the GCU classes are like eight-week classes.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01So you could knock out like two of those in a semester.
SPEAKER_00Technically you could do four. Oh really? Because they allow you to take two at a time. So if you did two and two, you could get a lot of college credits.
SPEAKER_01That is a lot of college credit. How many classes would you say are the average Luhai student, whether it's here on campus or done online, the average student takes in their four years with us?
SPEAKER_00The average student? I well, there's some that are not interested at all. Yeah, which is a good thing. And then there's some that take every opportunity in the classroom and as many online as possible. So average like one to two would probably be the average, I guess.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But kind of skies the limit. Or, like you said, you don't have to take it at all. So how do you guide students to understand yes, you should be taking college classes, or oh no, it's okay that you're not? Is it just kind of their preference, or how do you guide that?
SPEAKER_00I usually say work backwards. So if you're not going to college, don't do the college credit. Yeah. Because you don't have anywhere to take them. Like why pay for it if you're not gonna have anywhere to take them? And then so the dual credit is 98% transferable. So there's only two percent of colleges that won't accept it. So colleges should accept it even if it's elective credit. So when I look at a transfer coming in as a junior, I look to see what of these required classes have you taken. And then everything else is just elective. So we count towards your total credits to graduate. So, like some people say, Well, should I even do Spanish? Is that required towards my degree? Well, your college probably has some elective credits that you get to choose. So if you can get those out of the way, go ahead and do it. So some most most recent question I've been getting is I'm going to this specific college. Will they take it? And I guide them, and I've heard that college admissions departments have been guiding them to transferrology, where you can get a free account, you plug in the classes you've taken, and then you put in the school, and then it'll tell you what the equivalent class is. Okay, so then transferology. Transferology.
SPEAKER_01Cameron link that in the show notes.
SPEAKER_00But then I always, you know, like as juniors, I have a lot of questions just as an academic advisor, like, should I take Spanish three? Should I continue with a third language? And I always tell kids, email the admissions department. Okay. Email them and say, I'm a junior, I'm thinking about not taking a third year of Spanish, how will that affect my entrance into your school? Oh and I say get in an email because so much changes, or even just employees, right? Of like student who doesn't really care about the answer. Like if you're making this potentially life-changing or college-changing decision, you want to have it in writing. So if they say, Well, you didn't take third year of Spanish, you can say, When I was making this decision, I reached out to you, and this is what I was told. So I similar to this, if you're like, should I take it, reach out to the college that you think you might be going to say, I have an opportunity to take this in the at the high school level. How will this help me? How will it benefit me? Or does it not benefit me? And most of the times it will. I mean, if you're going to a junior college, maybe not because classes might be more geared towards what you want. Or someone said they want to go into the middle medical field. We don't have any medical classes. Right. But I was like, if you could get some of these electives out of the way and you can only have maybe a few years, right, in your undergraduate, so you could save that money for grad school, like do it. Yeah. Yeah. So it might sound like a lot right now, like you have a deadline to get this done, but in the long run, it could save a significant chunk of money.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I love that idea of working backwards. I know for when I was in high school, I had no idea what I wanted to do. Do you run across that a lot? Yeah. How do you guide students through that?
SPEAKER_00Oh man, we do have something that we use that I'm drawing a blank on. Eut science. Eut science. Yeah. And so when people say I don't have any idea, I'm like, well, did you science help me help you at all? And if kids do that, like it's an intense test and kind of exhausting. But if they do it how the test is, or they take it seriously and then it really is a great tool to kind of guide you. But if you don't know, I mean most people know they're going to college. Right. Right? Or not. Yeah. Or not. Yeah. Yeah. So like why not get those college credits under your belt?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And if nothing else, if it's the the equivalent of a college level course, it's good to be exposed to that. It's just good to be. Exposed to something a little more challenging before you get there to the real thing. I think. Yeah. Awesome. The list of college classes that we teach on campus, do you anticipate this list growing? Are there any future plans for expansion of this program?
SPEAKER_00So I think that as we I mean, this is not my role. Yeah. But I think that as we hire, like how how does a teacher be qualified? They have to have a master's in their field or speak that language fluently. And so that's how our languages are certified. Or how by those are okay. So I think our sta it just all depends on our staffing. So if one of these teachers were to leave, we would be looking for someone with the same education.
SPEAKER_01Right. But so like the I think sociology or even music theory is probably a good one where we have it now because we have that person, but it might go away, but that doesn't mean it's like gone forever, and it doesn't even mean that we don't have something to replace it. It just kind of ebbs and flows as as we have staffing. That that makes a lot of sense. Is any of this driven by student interest? I feel like ASL was possibly driven by student interest.
SPEAKER_00It could have been. ASL has definitely grown a lot over the last couple years.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I love seeing our kids signing in chapel or yeah, and Mr. Heinem up there. It's just, yeah, ASL is such a cool class. Okay, so you mentioned the other part of your job is AP classes. Yes. Can you walk us through AP?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so when I go and talk to classes about dual credit AP, most of our AP classes also have dual credit option. Oh, really? So AP Gov is the only one, and I believe that's working towards becoming dual credit. Um, so probably most parents think they need to take the AP test to get the college credit. But now with this dual credit, we would recommend dual credit all day, every day.
SPEAKER_01Right, instead of depending on one test.
SPEAKER_00Except well, I guess for except for those that 2% or military except dual credit or one of the other. Well, those are where you just need to do your research. Yeah. So if there's a dual credit option, we would recommend that. Dual credit is an average of your grade over the entire year. So you could totally bomb your first test and you have a teacher here to help you get your grade up and help you really understand the content where the AP test is one day in May. Yeah. If for some reason we can't do that, then it's a makeup date. And I use an example of last year, I had a couple of seniors say no to the dual credit at the deadline and took the AP Lang test, and that was our only snow day of the year last year.
SPEAKER_04No way.
SPEAKER_00And then the makeup date was state golf. Oh and so there was no no college credit offered or available for that.
SPEAKER_01Oh a perfect storm of circumstances. Right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so you're just relying on one day or a makeup day, or what if you're sick that day? Yeah. And then there is the one makeup day, but dual credit is a lot less stressful.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yeah, because it just you have the grace of the time of the length of the class. And like you said, having the teacher on campus. Yeah. That's huge. Would you say dual credit is more accepted at the college level than an AP test score?
SPEAKER_00I would say maybe the same. The thing is you're relying on a high AP score. Okay. It needs to be high enough to be accepted. Yeah. But then the exception with that is um AP calc. Last year we recommended dual credit, and then I think now that we've done a little more research, that's one where depending on where you're going to school, what you're gonna study, you just really need to make sure you're making the right decision. Yeah. So Miss Haney is an incredible resource for that one. Awesome. She really knows how to direct students to the best fit for them.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. I love that we have so many resources here on campus, not just you, but also the teachers, and really the whole guidance department is pretty well versed in all of this. So yeah, I'm so thankful.
SPEAKER_00And there is the option. I've told some kids, especially like juniors who have no idea what they're doing. You can sign up for the AP test and you could sign up for dual credit, which is still significantly cheaper than that college credit. Right. You just can't double dip when it comes time for sure. Oh, I have two English credits. Like no, choose which one you're gonna use. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Okay, that's really helpful. Does AP have a cost with it?
SPEAKER_00AP is $100.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00And there's a deadline of mid-October is when all the paperwork is due so that I can get my order in. And then if people want to add after that, it's a $40 late fee. If they choose to cancel, then it's a $40 cancellation fee and they get $60 back.
SPEAKER_01Okay, nice.
SPEAKER_00But dual credit is a hard deadline because that's set by the federal government. Oh, okay. They're not as gracious with what they need numbers, right? And enrollment from Concordia. So that's fair. Although Concordia, the deadline is September 15th, September 14th. And then CCU opens September 15th. And they come like all semester to enroll. Which just a lot of moves.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Yeah. Yes. Oh, I'm thankful that you are an organized person because that would be a lot. Um, okay, just briefly want to talk about the third part of your job, which is testing. Um, maybe you can give us just the rundown on why do we do all student testing, all all day testing?
SPEAKER_00So we do all school testing in October and in January. October is always the PSAT um and M and P S A T N M S Q T, the National Merit Scholarship Qualifying Test. Yes. So it's very significant for juniors. And then in January, do a practice January we do a practice ACT. Okay. And the point of that is the format's a little different, but the point of it is so that students are exposed to a practice SAT and a practice ACT all three years. So when it becomes significant junior year, they know the format, the format of blue book for the PSAT. Students know where to find the calculator, they know where their timer is, they understand the flow of it. So we just want to expose them to that so they're not shocked when it comes in and then they know where to work. So we've had the freshmen do a practice test at home through Revolution Prep. Okay. And then the sophomores and juniors are on campus testing for the PSAT. And I think it might look similar in January. We're still working on the details of what January will look like this year, but yeah, it's just to expose them. And then the juniors, if they get a high enough score in comparison with the other juniors, so they're just competing against juniors across the country that year. Yeah, they could qualify for scholarships. Yeah. If they do well enough.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, which is that's a big deal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But then we believe in it so much that we also offer Magosh, which is testing, practice testing, prep. Yeah, prep. Not thanks. Testing. That's probably practice test for our juniors. Um, but they can go in and like watch videos, they can do practice questions, practice tests, like whatever fits them. Like, how do you learn? Do you learn by watching? Do you learn by doing? And then hopefully that'll help their schools too.
SPEAKER_01Which is just another good skill to have is how do you learn? You that's a good question to be able to answer. Yeah. That's awesome. Um, yeah, I think it's clear that we really we care about helping these kids get to where they want to be. Fully knowing that not every single one of them is going to be college-bound, and that's fine. We have options and resources for them as well, but just helping them just understand the process because, like all things, if you've never done it before, you don't know what you don't know. And that's why you're such a valuable resource because you've been around the block several times on this.
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SPEAKER_00Well, and I've had to learn too, like when SAT went all digital. Oh, that year was hard for me because I had a routine, I knew like what this looked like, so I couldn't imagine like if these kids were just thrown into and here's your testing platform, and good luck at taking this important test. Like, yeah. Oh, that is stressful.
SPEAKER_01Do you get a lot of kids? Do you ever have to help kids manage stress in this area? I think Miss Nafsey does more of that. Yeah, she is like a voice of calm because I think she just gets it so much, and she knows like, yes, this is important, but this is not life or death.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. If if you are talking to a junior who isn't quite sure what they want to do, but they're thinking college, what is the one piece of advice you would you want every single junior to hear?
SPEAKER_00Wow. One wow. I mean, coming just simply, like they're God's workmanship and like God created them for a purpose. And I'm really big on if you I know most parents, some parents might not want to hear this, but like that's okay. If college isn't for you and you don't know what you're doing, like don't waste all that money. Yeah. If your gifts are cosmetology or yeah, we have a lot of electricians, a lot of people that are loving life and finding their purpose and working with their hands and not rocking up college debt. Yeah. Like that's a big idea. If college isn't in your future, yeah. Totally. Yeah. God still uses people without a college degree. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But also, like you say, knowing yourself and knowing that God made you unique and He has given you gifts, and your gifts may not look like the person next to you's gifts, and that's okay. But you were created with a purpose, and it's better to lean into that than to fight it. Because I think a lot of us want to fight it and just be like, No, I want to be like this, but you are wonderfully made the way you are. Yeah. So I love that. I hope every junior does hear that from you. That's amazing. Um, all right. Well, I didn't warn you about this, but since you're a first-time guest, we do get to know you questions, and we haven't had a first-time guest in many, many, many episodes. So I'm excited for this. Okay. Okay. Favorite dessert?
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's a good question. I do like a chocolate mousse.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Ooh, no one has said that before. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I love that. It's gotta be like light. If it's too heavy, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Do you ever make your own chocolate mousse?
SPEAKER_00No, we're trying to eat healthy.
SPEAKER_01So yeah. Well, if I make something that I usually cottage cheese and cocoa powder, I feel like I hear that makes a mean chocolate mousse high protein.
SPEAKER_00Um, if you could go anywhere, where would you go? I love Rocky Mountain National Park with the moose. Oh, I love that. But I do want to go to Alaska someday. So maybe that's anywhere.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I think that's awesome that you're like, I love my home state. Yeah because people probably don't know this about you. You are a Denver Lutheran grad.
SPEAKER_00I am, yeah. Did you have any of our current teachers as your teachers? Who? I had Mr. Gherky. He was my math teacher, and I was his TA and baseball manager.
SPEAKER_01No way. I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know that about you. Wow, you guys go way back. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's awesome. And then Mr. Rehnquest was my Spanish teacher.
SPEAKER_01Wow. I don't think I remembered he taught Spanish at one point.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I reference him all the time because I remember he was from Needles, California, and he was teaching us the word for snow, which is nieva. So it nieva snows in Needles. That's how I remember never forgotten. Yep. That's amazing. It's a good teacher right there. Yeah. Okay. What about the Hollenbeck? I did have Mrs.
SPEAKER_01Hollenbeck, yeah.
SPEAKER_00For freshman English.
SPEAKER_01Nice. Yeah. I love that we have lots of alumni working on campus. Yeah. That's cool. Good to be home. Yeah. That's sweet. Okay. Um, well, thank you so much for your time. This is really informative. I I think this will be a just a really helpful episode as people try to navigate the AP dual credit college credit gaining world, which is a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So thank you for what you do.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you're welcome.